Cinema Threads  

Go Back   Cinema Threads > Movies > Classics
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 07-17-2006, 04:27 AM
MacGuffin MacGuffin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 188
MacGuffin is a jewel in the roughMacGuffin is a jewel in the roughMacGuffin is a jewel in the roughMacGuffin is a jewel in the rough
Default

By the way, let me commend you on a great topic, Shane.
__________________
"The Gods are just, and of our pleasant vices
Make instruments to plague us." - King Lear
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-17-2006, 08:10 PM
Randy Randy is offline
Editor
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 297
Randy is a jewel in the roughRandy is a jewel in the roughRandy is a jewel in the rough
Default

I have a book by Joe Bob Briggs about controversial films (I think it's called Truly Disturbed.) He mentions some of the same movies, but his is a little more historically based, and a lot of the newer films mentioned in the above list weren't mentioned at all. It features some remarkably well-written essays about why each movie was considered so disturbed and/or disturbing.

As far as The Last Tempation of Christ, it's a fine film. I'm amazed that people who claim to have so much "faith" are so opposed to any ideas that differ from their beliefs. If their faith is so strong, why would they care that someone has an alternate viewpoint?

I loved Natural Born Killers, although I have the same criticism of it that Tarantino had. He wrote the original screenplay, and the stuff with Rodney Dangerfield being a bad father was tacked on later to provide "motivation" for the killers. I agree with Tarantino that this was a cheap, "Hollywood" out.

JFK is a great movie, but I think it's a damn shame that Stone didn't make a documentary about what an SOB Garrison was instead. Frankly, that's a more interesting story than the conspiracy theory that he presented anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-17-2006, 10:46 PM
Shane Shane is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 3,415
Shane is on a distinguished road
Default Nbk

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacGuffin
I know this is supposed to be a contemporary classic, but I thought it was simple shockjockism.

Oliver Stone supposedly filmed this to criticize the glorification of violence by the media. Then he has Mickey and Mallory escape in the end, therefore completely "Hollywooding up" their killing spree. You would think Stone might want show that mad killers get caught and live the rest of their lives in a gray prison cell, but he's too much of a showman to have that happen. He had to play it as a farce, which in my mind obscured the message he was trying to convey. One would think he was just trying to get a rise out of the public, instead of making a point.

I liked a lot of his early work, but Oliver Stone is clearly out of his mind.

Besides, the woman that played Mallory Knox has long put on one of the most annoying shows in Hollywood. Has she ever played anything but the dumb bimbo?

Not a Juliette Lewis fan, huh?

By the way, there was originally going to be a different ending (which is featured on the Director's Cut DVD). In it, the mysterious inmate known as Owen (the one who helps Mickey and Mallory escape from prison) is revealed to be the manifestation of their "inner demons." He kills both of them and drives off into the desert.

I'm not sure why they decided to go with the other ending (it might have been the studio).
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-17-2006, 10:52 PM
Shane Shane is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 3,415
Shane is on a distinguished road
Default Joe Bob

Quote:
Originally Posted by Randy
I have a book by Joe Bob Briggs about controversial films (I think it's called Truly Disturbed.) He mentions some of the same movies, but his is a little more historically based, and a lot of the newer films mentioned in the above list weren't mentioned at all. It features some remarkably well-written essays about why each movie was considered so disturbed and/or disturbing.

As far as The Last Tempation of Christ, it's a fine film. I'm amazed that people who claim to have so much "faith" are so opposed to any ideas that differ from their beliefs. If their faith is so strong, why would they care that someone has an alternate viewpoint?

What were some of the films cited by Joe Bob?

Last Temptation of Christ was a decent movie, and it certainly didn't deserve the kind of criticism it received. I can guarantee you, however, the way it went down. Some church officials got wind of the movie and started raising hell, telling members of their congregation that the film depicted Jesus having sex. It spread from there and got picked up by the media. But during the entire time, nobody bothered to mention that the "sex scene" came in a vision conjured up by Satan. And the people who condemned it the loudest never even saw the film. They were just ignorantly reacting to something which they thought they knew about (but were completely misinformed about). The sheep mentality reigns supreme.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-19-2006, 09:54 AM
Cyrus98 Cyrus98 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 3
Cyrus98 is on a distinguished road
Default

Where's "Men Behind The Sun"? now there's a replusive piece of Asian cinema and they even killed a real cat in that movie especially using a dead human dead corpse in a autopsy scene.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-22-2006, 07:02 AM
Shane Shane is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 3,415
Shane is on a distinguished road
Default Man Behind the Sun

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyrus98
Where's "Men Behind The Sun"? now there's a replusive piece of Asian cinema and they even killed a real cat in that movie especially using a dead human dead corpse in a autopsy scene.

I have to admit that I'd never heard of this film before you mentioned it. Sounds brutal (what with a cat being eaten alive by a room filled with starving rats).

Here's a link for anyone who wants to read more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Behind_The_Sun
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-05-2008, 06:41 PM
Elsa Elsa is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 98
Elsa is on a distinguished road
Default

For most people, The Crying Game is unconventional, not terribly controversial. But any film depicting members of the IRA sparks criticism... in this particular film certain groups would find 2 major reasons to be disgusted.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 2.4.0