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Old 07-17-2006, 04:27 AM
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By the way, let me commend you on a great topic, Shane.
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I have a book by Joe Bob Briggs about controversial films (I think it's called Truly Disturbed.) He mentions some of the same movies, but his is a little more historically based, and a lot of the newer films mentioned in the above list weren't mentioned at all. It features some remarkably well-written essays about why each movie was considered so disturbed and/or disturbing.

As far as The Last Tempation of Christ, it's a fine film. I'm amazed that people who claim to have so much "faith" are so opposed to any ideas that differ from their beliefs. If their faith is so strong, why would they care that someone has an alternate viewpoint?

I loved Natural Born Killers, although I have the same criticism of it that Tarantino had. He wrote the original screenplay, and the stuff with Rodney Dangerfield being a bad father was tacked on later to provide "motivation" for the killers. I agree with Tarantino that this was a cheap, "Hollywood" out.

JFK is a great movie, but I think it's a damn shame that Stone didn't make a documentary about what an SOB Garrison was instead. Frankly, that's a more interesting story than the conspiracy theory that he presented anyway.
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I know this is supposed to be a contemporary classic, but I thought it was simple shockjockism.

Oliver Stone supposedly filmed this to criticize the glorification of violence by the media. Then he has Mickey and Mallory escape in the end, therefore completely "Hollywooding up" their killing spree. You would think Stone might want show that mad killers get caught and live the rest of their lives in a gray prison cell, but he's too much of a showman to have that happen. He had to play it as a farce, which in my mind obscured the message he was trying to convey. One would think he was just trying to get a rise out of the public, instead of making a point.

I liked a lot of his early work, but Oliver Stone is clearly out of his mind.

Besides, the woman that played Mallory Knox has long put on one of the most annoying shows in Hollywood. Has she ever played anything but the dumb bimbo?
Not a Juliette Lewis fan, huh?

By the way, there was originally going to be a different ending (which is featured on the Director's Cut DVD). In it, the mysterious inmate known as Owen (the one who helps Mickey and Mallory escape from prison) is revealed to be the manifestation of their "inner demons." He kills both of them and drives off into the desert.

I'm not sure why they decided to go with the other ending (it might have been the studio).
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I have a book by Joe Bob Briggs about controversial films (I think it's called Truly Disturbed.) He mentions some of the same movies, but his is a little more historically based, and a lot of the newer films mentioned in the above list weren't mentioned at all. It features some remarkably well-written essays about why each movie was considered so disturbed and/or disturbing.

As far as The Last Tempation of Christ, it's a fine film. I'm amazed that people who claim to have so much "faith" are so opposed to any ideas that differ from their beliefs. If their faith is so strong, why would they care that someone has an alternate viewpoint?
What were some of the films cited by Joe Bob?

Last Temptation of Christ was a decent movie, and it certainly didn't deserve the kind of criticism it received. I can guarantee you, however, the way it went down. Some church officials got wind of the movie and started raising hell, telling members of their congregation that the film depicted Jesus having sex. It spread from there and got picked up by the media. But during the entire time, nobody bothered to mention that the "sex scene" came in a vision conjured up by Satan. And the people who condemned it the loudest never even saw the film. They were just ignorantly reacting to something which they thought they knew about (but were completely misinformed about). The sheep mentality reigns supreme.
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Where's "Men Behind The Sun"? now there's a replusive piece of Asian cinema and they even killed a real cat in that movie especially using a dead human dead corpse in a autopsy scene.
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Where's "Men Behind The Sun"? now there's a replusive piece of Asian cinema and they even killed a real cat in that movie especially using a dead human dead corpse in a autopsy scene.
I have to admit that I'd never heard of this film before you mentioned it. Sounds brutal (what with a cat being eaten alive by a room filled with starving rats).

Here's a link for anyone who wants to read more:
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For most people, The Crying Game is unconventional, not terribly controversial. But any film depicting members of the IRA sparks criticism... in this particular film certain groups would find 2 major reasons to be disgusted.
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interesting to see how movies were controversial over time.
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Agree with #1 and #20. Very controversial films. #20 should have been higher up, but at least the list covered such a broad spectrum as to include it.
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What most people who listen only to the conspiracy theories don't know is that Oswald had tried to assassinate someone earlier that year. The F.B.I. had no clue until they interviewed Oswald's wife several days after Oswald was dead. (It was some racist ex-general who went on speaking tours around America at the time, but who lived in Dallas. Oswald shot at him in his study, but missed because the bullet apparently hit a branch on a tree overhanging the window.
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